mj<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@witchescauldron" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>witchescauldron</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@hamishcampbell" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>hamishcampbell</span></a></span> </p><p>Well, I think I understand what you're implying there, and would definitely agree that information is not enough (fluffy?).</p><p>Lifestyles, habits, and world-views have to change too, and for those, more info is not what is generally needed. Pain & loss are unfortunate requirements, aka "learning the hard way" through experience instead of a lecture.</p><p>Given that we will do more to avoid pain, standing on the mainstream sidelines is what the comfy majority do. That area is constantly shrinking though, so that's one thing in favor of motivating serious change.</p><p>I think that short term mentality also is impeding the solutions we're talking about, which are by nature quite long term, generational aspects. We will have to modify religious world-views, <a href="https://c.im/tags/nationalist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nationalist</span></a> /economic, and scientific ones as well, all notoriously slow to change & adapt, even though inevitable in the long run.</p><p>These institutions suffer from the lack of <a href="https://c.im/tags/openaccess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>openaccess</span></a> & <a href="https://c.im/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> properties in duplicitous manners. They are top-down, closed <a href="https://c.im/tags/hierarchy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hierarchy</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/reductionist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>reductionist</span></a>, as well as exclusionary & rivalrous.</p><p>Linear thinking & toy models rule the day because they are faster & easier to implement, and very often do no noticeable harm, or if they do, it's only to a small, powerless minority (or take lifetimes to accumulate into a problem).</p><p>This has an <a href="https://c.im/tags/evolutionary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>evolutionary</span></a> basis, so solutions will have to have special characteristics of 'over-ride' (power) while remaining constrained in both scope and time ( <a href="https://c.im/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> & periodic). It will require the kind of <a href="https://c.im/tags/trust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>trust</span></a> that <a href="https://c.im/tags/inequality" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>inequality</span></a> and <a href="https://c.im/tags/plutocracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>plutocracy</span></a> won't allow.</p><p>We'll need to be <a href="https://c.im/tags/interconnected" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>interconnected</span></a>, co-dependent, and often vulnerable. <a href="https://c.im/tags/Network" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Network</span></a> forms must replace <a href="https://c.im/tags/Corporate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Corporate</span></a> organizational framing (note that even NGOs & NPOs take the post-agrarian revolution, city-state + Ptolemaic/ <a href="https://c.im/tags/anthropocentric" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>anthropocentric</span></a> hierarchy).</p><p>So a re-write of the narrative is in order. This is quite natural and repeats regularly throughout history. There are software updates & patches, and then there are entirely new apps & devices (driven by hardware advances, or tech in general). </p><p>Kuhn has clear ideas about how <a href="https://c.im/tags/science" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>science</span></a> navigates these changes. Puzzle-solving ~/= bug patches. We are well beyond a saturation of patches; it's time for a paradigm shifting philosophy & protocol. My hack at this is called the <a href="https://c.im/tags/Information_Paradigm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Information_Paradigm</span></a>.</p><p>We are, in essence, needing something that can easily appear contradictive-- the early adopters of new paradigms are a very different crowd than the mass crowds that will follow them, based on emotional or fast-brain processes. Getting them onboard takes a different set of enticements than the post-pivot criticality will for the rest of civilization. </p><p>IOW, the 'fluffy' stuff comes back as partly but critically necessary, which is why we can't eliminate it completely. Leaders emerge across all scales, and need to be able to find common ground with their distant cohorts, rather than competitive isolation or aggression for individual benefit.</p><p>These leaders, and the groups/networks they represent, are very diverse. A default to "Open" principles means, among other things, looking for shared desires & interests to build <a href="https://c.im/tags/cooperation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cooperation</span></a> on, rather than immediately dividing along lines of difference.</p>