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Debacle<a href="https://c.im/@sbb" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sbb</a>Yw!Note, that when you have `apt-listchanges` on your <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Debian</a> (or derivative) machine, you get such information directly on uprade! 🙂"drop mod_muc_restrict_pm and mod_vcard_muc (not needed with Prosody 13)"<a href="https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/p/prosody-modules/prosody-modules_0.0~hg20250402.f315edc39f3d+dfsg-1_changelog" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/p/prosody-modules/prosody-modules_0.0~hg20250402.f315edc39f3d+dfsg-1_changelog</a>EDIT: Sorry, this version is not yet in <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/backports" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#backports</a>. Will be soon™!<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>

Bhante Subharo :xmpp:Today I upgraded my <a href="https://c.im/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> server from 0.12.5 to 0.13. I had to stop calling the vcard_muc module in my configuration files, as that functionality is already provided by another module. To double check: I was able to change a chat room's avatar, even after removing vcard_muc.Thanks for the <a href="https://c.im/tags/debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#debian</a> backport, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/@debacle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@debacle</a> :dy62:PS: running "prosodyctl check" *doesn't* (and arguably should) notice that vcard_muc was called, and recommend that it should be removed.Edit: I reported this in the Prosody XMPP chatroom.

Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> 13.0.1 has been released (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ProsodyIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ProsodyIM</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Lua" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lua</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/lxmppd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#lxmppd</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SCRAM</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SCRAMSHA</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SCRAMSHA1</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA256" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SCRAMSHA256</a>) <a href="https://prosody.im/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://prosody.im/</a>

Adële 🦥<a href="https://absolutelyhar.am/@bakervai001" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bakervai001</a> <a href="https://social.pollux.casa/tags/snikket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Snikket</a> (based on <a href="https://social.pollux.casa/tags/prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prosody</a>) is certainly the best choice : good default configuration with all needed <a href="https://social.pollux.casa/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> extensions. You can pay for a hosted instance or install your own.<a href="https://snikket.org/service/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://snikket.org/service/</a>

froxAnother <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prosody</a> release and another smooth upgrade. This one's a biggie, the 0. versioning has been dropped ! There's some additions for <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/DANE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DANE</a> and channel binding, which I should look into. Also more granular permissions, which will surely be useful for deployments bigger than mine. Downtime was also short enough to not trigger the uptime monitors. I see even the bookworm-backports package is updated. <a href="https://blog.prosody.im/prosody-13.0.0-released/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://blog.prosody.im/prosody-13.0.0-released/</a> <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> <a href="https://tooting.ch/tags/selfhosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#selfhosting</a>

Pirate Praveendiasp.in and durare.org <a href="https://social.masto.host/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> services are now running the latest version 13.0 of <a href="https://social.masto.host/tags/prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prosody</a> xmpp server!Thanks to <a href="https://floss.social/@buster" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@buster</a> for doing the upgrade. There was a small unexpected down time as database format had changed and we needed to fix that manually.

Bhante Subharo :xmpp:<a href="https://bbs.kawa-kun.com/users/tk" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tk</a> My <a href="https://c.im/tags/prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prosody</a> 0.12.5 server also can't do reactions in chatrooms - <a href="https://c.im/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> clients are <a href="https://c.im/tags/Conversations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Conversations</a> and <a href="https://c.im/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gajim</a>. There is a claim that Prosody supports XEP-0421 here: <a href="https://prosody.im/doc/xeplist" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://prosody.im/doc/xeplist</a> ...ever since 0.12, but it's not enabled/installed by default, as stock-installed on <a href="https://c.im/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Debian</a> 12 (from the backport for 0.12.5).Note: XEP-0421 is absent from this page: <a href="https://modules.prosody.im/xeps.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://modules.prosody.im/xeps.html</a>

Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> 13.0.0 has been released (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ProsodyIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ProsodyIM</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Lua" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lua</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/lxmppd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#lxmppd</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SCRAM</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SCRAMSHA</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SCRAMSHA1</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA256" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SCRAMSHA256</a>) <a href="https://prosody.im/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://prosody.im/</a>

L. Rhodes ⁂Okay, seriously. How do you use ad hoc commands in <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prosody</a> ?

LavX NewsProsody 13.0.0: A Major Leap for XMPP Server with Enhanced Security and PerformanceThe Prosody Team has unveiled version 13.0.0 of its open-source XMPP server, introducing significant improvements in security, performance, and user management. This release marks a pivotal transition...<a href="https://news.lavx.hu/article/prosody-13-0-0-a-major-leap-for-xmpp-server-with-enhanced-security-and-performance" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://news.lavx.hu/article/prosody-13-0-0-a-major-leap-for-xmpp-server-with-enhanced-security-and-performance</a><a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#news</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tech</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/RealTimeCommunications" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RealTimeCommunications</a>

Prosody IMProsody 13.0.0 is here! Farewell Zero-ver! This major release brings a number of exciting new features, including improved security, performance, and administration tools. Check it out: <a href="https://blog.prosody.im/prosody-13.0.0-released/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://blog.prosody.im/prosody-13.0.0-released/</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prosody</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a>

Fabio NataliI finally got around to setting up my little personal <a href="https://social.coop/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> server. I've used <a href="https://social.coop/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> on a leightweight Hetzner instance, thanks to the <a href="https://social.coop/tags/Guix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Guix</a> deploy command and its fantastic Hetzner integration that's been added recently.Here's a little blog post that I wrote about the process:<a href="https://fabionatali.com/posts/xmpp-self-hosting-tutorial/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://fabionatali.com/posts/xmpp-self-hosting-tutorial/</a>If you're an XMPP user and want to get in touch, my handle is fnat@xmpp.fnat.me.

kgoetzThis weeks <a href="https://aus.social/tags/Fedibruary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fedibruary</a> topic was an <a href="https://aus.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> / <a href="https://aus.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Jabber</a> server and following a suggestion here on masto (thanks <a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@erebion</a> !) I installed Prosody . In a move which probably made my life harder overall, I decided to install within our network and not on a public server. This is a problem because XMPP servers push mail to each other like SMTP... which I should have remembered before hand....Anyway, I did successfully set up <a href="https://aus.social/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> and did some experiments, messaging to my <a href="https://aus.social/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a>.social account and a second account I had created on the private server.Because (i believe) of split dns issues i was having the users on my private server can't share media or files . I hope that would be a matter of correctly configuring dns and the issue might go away.I'd have liked to have done a better job of this one but I think this is a valid proof of concept and I will be storing my notes ("documentation") away for a future live deployment.

J👀I just migrated my personal <a href="https://mastodon.n41.lat/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> server based on <a href="https://mastodon.n41.lat/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> to its own <a href="https://mastodon.n41.lat/tags/selfhosted" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#selfhosted</a> server. I could not believe how easy it was, including transferring configuration, accounts, stored messages/files, etc.BTW, the new server is just tiny, with 1GB of RAM, and it still seems to use only a fraction of it.I suppose this is the result of dealing with an amazing protocol (XMPP) coupled with an excellent piece of technology (Prosody) 👏

algernon luddOoof. I'm trying to set up <a href="https://come-from.mad-scientist.club/tags/prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a>, but in a possibly weird way: it's running on a Mac Mini on the shelf, TLS cert is obtained via LetsEncrypt DNS-01, and the whole thing is fronted by a haproxy on a remote VPS.So far, it is a bit of a pain in the ass. Possibly because I tried to test against my existing install, and that is bleeding from many wounds, too.

Rob 🇺🇦 🇵🇸<a href="https://framapiaf.org/@debacle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@debacle</a> Can I ask which you would consider to be easier to set up and maintain, @ejabberd or <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prosody</a>?

Bhante Subharo :xmpp:In order to try out Multi-User chat in <a href="https://c.im/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gajim</a>, I looked for lists of popular Public "Group Chats". I came across "The top 25 public chat rooms on the Jabber network": <a href="https://search.jabber.network/channels/1" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://search.jabber.network/channels/1</a>The fullest groups seem to be the support groups for XMPP clients/servers like Gajim, <a href="https://c.im/tags/Conversations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Conversations</a>, and <a href="https://c.im/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a>. You might scoff I even tried these out, but _it was a start_, especially to try the "Joining" and "Leaving" process. *These activities - especially the very simple and quick "Leaving" process - are a non-trivial ability these days, in a world where closing accounts is about as easy as escaping an alligator.* They worked fine. No problems.There's a huge number of people panicking about how sketchy ("enshittified"; fraught with "proprietary lock-in") all the popular online services have become. How about make your own Public Group chats, for any and all of the <a href="https://c.im/tags/Facebook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Facebook</a> groups, <a href="https://c.im/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WhatsApp</a> Groups, and <a href="https://c.im/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Discord</a> "servers" you are part of, and thereby try to gradually provide/advocate an "out"? Maybe even mirror the announcements from the more popular groups into your own Public Chat groups.How about take on some leadership, if only as a form of action and protest, offering an alternative, and thereby *making a statement that a federated alternative indeed exists*? You might not be taken seriously at first, but if people are indeed *upset enough*, maybe your protest might actually catch on?<a href="https://c.im/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialMedia</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#enshittification</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a>

maple<a href="https://c.im/@sbb" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@sbb</a> Yep, I ran into that too and it;'s a big part of the reason I can't bring myself to recommend <a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> to anyone. The probable reason it's not working is either because <a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> doesn't have a valid, non-self-signed certificate keyed to your domain, or because you don't have the right extensions activated in Prosody. Prosody is initially a relatively easy server to set up but it is not that easy to get file transfers working. I did it (even using <a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gajim</a> 1.8.4 which apparently is the newest version on Flathub) but it was a real bear to get it working. I think I fought with it for like three days. Normally I would write up how I did something like that but it turned out to be so difficult that by the time I got through I could not remember everything I had done. AND it is still broken because every three months the fucking certificate expires, and because I am not running a publicly-accessible web server, getting that renewed is a little slice of hell, plus Let's Encrypt no longer sends you an email when it's about to expire. Most ordinary users would give up rather than go through that torture.The xmpp proponents seem to think it is just fine if the servers are difficult to set up (especially if you are just a plain user and not a Linux geek) and the clients lose functionality or refuse to communicate if they have to connect with a server that doesn't have a non-self-signed certificate. I keep saying that is NOT fine, they need to make a server that has GUI configuration page(s) and it needs to be able to take care of obtaining and renewing the fucking certificate WITHOUT making you use Docker or some other thing that a lot of ordinary users don't understand. Or the clients should allow users to accept a self-signed certificate, like web browsers do. But they don't want to hear it, they just keep browbeating people to switch to xmpp while ignoring the difficulties, and that is why ultimately we all (quite reluctantly) started using Signal here.

Justine SmithiesCan someone please instruct my brain to stop going off in a 101 different directions. Currently reading up on <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> and thinking about maybe spinning up in a <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> jail my own <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> server ? Apparently this'll be federated too and who knows maybe I'll get my family to use it ? 😉 <a href="https://prosody.im/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://prosody.im/</a>

StefanVor einigen Jahren habe ich meine Messenger deinstalliert (Ich hatte nur <a href="https://devlug.de/social?t=threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Threema</a>) und habe alles auf <a href="https://devlug.de/social?t=xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> umgestellt. Es hatte einige Zeit gedauert, bis der Server so lief wie ich es auch haben wollte. Mein Chat-System für die Familie und Freunde läuft seitdem auf <a href="https://devlug.de/social?t=prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> unter <a href="https://devlug.de/social?t=debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Debian</a>. Die letzte Änderung war das einbinden einer invite-based account registration. Mittlerweile ist meine Konfiguration zwar etwas "durcheinander" 🙂 aber es läuft alles seht gut. Ich habe jetzt mal meine Server Konfiguration als Grundlage für ein kleines "HowTo" verwendet. Vielleicht hilft es ja jemanden. <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Prosody/HowTo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/Prosody/HowTo</a> Happy chatting via XMPP :)

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